Thursday, August 20, 2009

Of Dates, Boycotting and Right Wing Zionists

Mohammed Ziyaad Hassen SA Calls to Boycott Israeli Dates This Ramadan By Aisha Mouneimne – Cape Town http://tinyurl.com/ms8qr4

6 hours ago via Twitter · Comment ·

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Ilan Solomons
Lol - u are aware that everytime sum1 calls 4 these boycott things there is an increase in the amount of Israeli products bought, i think the Israeli Trade ministery owes u! U know the publicity helps more than any israeli trade exihibition - i think u shld rather boycott Israeli life support machines and Chemotherapy drugs - makes much more of an impact i believe! Fast Well though;)
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Muhammad Jawwaad Akleker
Nah... I disagree.. I know from personal experience and that of many friends who actively boycott all israeli products... Jazakallah khair.. Keep us the good work.. It serves as a good reminder to those of us who become forgetful.. Some people will try their utmost to stop this boycott.. Including making false claims about how it has make a positive impact on the sale of israeli good.. Positive impact my a**! Shove your bullshyte where the sun dont shine!
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Mohammed Ziyaad Hassen
@ Ilan - Your argument is based upon a fallacy. Apartheid ended in South Africa because of Boycotts and Sanctions! Israeli apologists might buy more of the product, but most people wont. Especially since international public opinion and support is shifting against Israeli propoganda.It was very productive chatting to liberal zionists that ... Read Moreattended the Norman Finkelstein debate in Cape Town. It was a pleasure chatting to them. You need to move more to the centre Ilan, your politics is of. No meaningful discussion or proactive steps will ever be taken with the attitude that you adopt.
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Ilan Solomons
Wow mate i wld consider myself from the zionist peace camp, and i have seen statistics from the Israeli trade industry that has shown the proof of the claim that these boycott calls have a direct link 2 increased sales! B i am all 4 engagement and as wat a fairly liberal minded person im willing 2 listen 2 any view point, even wen i openly disagree... Read More with it, i went 2 good old Norman's talk at wits even, knowing his stance! I respect ur views and but i respectfully disagree with ur views aswell! I think u often miss the point that being pro-palestinian(which i am aswell) does not mean u have 2b anti-israeli, or worse anti-zionist/jewish, i think that just as u call 4 me 2 move 2 the center - wateva that means? - u shld do the same my friend! :)
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Altaaf Mahomed
agreed - respecting others viewpoints is a must. i've been boycotting isreali goods for years now. i know it will have 0 impact on their bottom line but that isn't the reason im boycotting. i do it, because im standing for a cause which i beleive in.
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Mohammed Ziyaad Hassen
@ Ilan - please send me the stats as well. And i know you my man, you right wing! Not centre. Have met much more left wing Zionists in my time.
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Ilan Solomons
Altaaf 2b be honest with u i hardly ever buy Israeli goods just because their often just bloody expensive and like i dont need it, but wen i hear of a boycott call my jewish and actually more my non-jewish friends start buying the stuff like its going 2 neva cum again! Its just the reality!
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Mohammed Ziyaad Hassen
Dude, i know you. All your friends are hardcore rightwing Zionists. I never ever saw you with non-jewish friends on campus, ever
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Ilan Solomons
Mate i wont lie i once was a very right wing zionist, but i have shifted over the years 2 the centre - as its the only way i believe 2 achieve peace and justice 4 all - but ur comments that all my friends are jewish and right wing zionists is totatlly false, esp the ones on campus! But the discussion is not me - its this boycott thing that is helps... Read More nothing in my opinion! I believe the opposite the more economic leverage sa has over Israel the more influence we have over the situasion 2 push towards the 2 states solution, but if u think the media attension u give 2 israeli goods is the way 2 go - well then i guess Israel benefits regardless! I mean like how often did u used 2 by israeli goods b4 anyway? I mean its not like ur stopping a regular buyer ur just - inadvertantly - giving more of a market 2 ppl who didnt have an opinion 2 start with! But i think we shld encourage the government 2 include the PA trade in all deals and sales from Israel, thats wats needed i believe!
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Jessica A'isha Mouneimne
the issue is that so much of our fresh fruit and veg actually comes from israel, and we dont even kno it- its not like the product as a: caution im a zionist product! written on it (although that would help) the fall of apartheid was brought about via boycotts, as Sa's we have added responsibility 2 c oppression wen its there and do everything we can do stop it.just adding my voice 2 a conversation thats doesnt include me lol1
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Hussein Mahomedy
Let us strive for peace ..it is the oNLY way,as human beings with HEARTS not rocks within us ..!
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Ilan Solomons
Hussein all i can say to your statement! Is INSHALLAH AMEEN!!! :)
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Muhammed Bhayat
Ilan should provide us with the facts and figures to back up his stance. Its a pretty logical argument from MZ and supported by the weight of history and simple economic principles. Boycotts are extremely effective tools in both creating awareness of zionist oppression as well as educating people to be more discerning regarding the choices they make as individual consumers.
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Muhammed Bhayat
There can be no peace without justice.
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Ilan Solomons
Agreed Bhayat - Justice for Jews and Palestinians!!!
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Hussein Mahomedy
Where there is willingness there is a way ! LET PEACE PREVAIL with human determination ! Enough madness..! Let Sanity make way ...intelligent are we not ?????
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Hussein Mahomedy
Peace is important for all humanity! I say this because the boomerang effect awaits any oppressor like Pharoah. Allah freed the Bani Israeel.So the human being has no option but to act with humility and use his mind in the right direction. Complexity will be untangled as every predicament is made easy by Allah. What i do fear is our loss of focus ... Read Moreas humanity.Boycott is limited action. Awakening the CONSCIENCE within us is the GOAL to strive for.The wife of Pharoah listened and became the beloved of God . So every human being is under test and has choices. Moses chose God and was elevated. Muhammad chose God and his name is elevated.Let us replay the scene of Pharoah and Moses every second of our lives in order to draw real lesson.
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Mohammed Ziyaad Hassen
@ Aisha - Discussion is open to everyone@ Hussein - Im all for Peace! Lets not talk about peace when one side oppressors another, and claim that 'BOTH SIDES' need to come ot the party! Thats hipocracy, not peace!@ Muhammed Bhayat - I agree with you, boycotts are excellent and achieves it target. We should remember that Ilan is a product of propoganda... Read More@ Ilan - Are you employed directly to defend Israel, or do you do it voluntarily?
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Ilan Solomons
Lol - im zionist by choice mate! And i will criticize israel wen and where neccessary - i am a product of jewish justice if thats propaganda so be it!lol Im just luv this boycott talk its hillarious - its like me saying im going 2 boycott PEP wen i dont shop there 2 begin with! I think it wld be more effective if u were 2 take ur sick and dying ... Read Morefamily members off israeli produced life support systems and other medication - now that wld show ur serious abt this boycott thing! Oh well ill enjoy my evil zionist jaffa oranges and other israeli products that help the world! Im boycotting israeli produced underwear by the way - i think until they drop the prices we must avoid this zionist rip off! ;)
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Hussein Mahomedy
Its a complex situation,yes. Oppression cannot be condoned whether it be from Israel or our own muslim governments that practise it.Israel or other govt think that they have a freee handling humanity,yet the hand of Allah most assuredly watches our motives and heavy handed actions.This situation is not irreversible as the case of Moses displays.So ... Read Morereminders and advice is necessary before judgment takes place and our unrestrained use of power is pulled from under the rug.Allah is Merciful to those who show mercy.When muslim countries are apathetic and muslim women and children languish in prison,then we have an abnormal situation.Oppression reigns,but it will not continue as the Justice of Allah will nullify those who oppose peace.It is time to shake the hearts that harbour ill will towards humanity and challenge all our dangerous mindsets.Peace will eventually win through as promised by Allah whether we like it or not.Will the boycott challenge SET MINDSETS?Allah knows best..
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